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+;;; my yesterday's attempt
+
+(in-package #:cl-collider)
+;; https://github.com/SCLOrkHub/SCLOrkSynths
+;; https://github.com/SCLOrkHub/SCLOrkSynths/blob/master/SynthDefs/bass/acidOto3091.scd
+
+(defsynth bdrum ((amp 0.5) (out 0)   )
+  (out.ar out (* amp (sin-osc.ar (line.ar 120 60 1) 0 (env-gen.ar (env (list 0 1 0) (list 0.005 0.5)) :act :free)))))
+(defsynth acid0to3091-my-attempt ((amp 0.5) (out 0) (gate 1) (freq 440) (pan 0) (att 0.001) (dec 0.5) (sus 0.1) (rel 0.5) (curve -4) (lagTime 0.12) (filterRange 6) (width 0.51) (rq 0.3))
+  (let* ((freq (lag.kr freq lagTime))
+         (ampEnv (env-gen.kr (adsr att dec sus rel amp 0) :gate gate))
+         (filterEnv (env-gen.kr (adsr att (* 2 dec) (/ sus 2) (* 2 rel) (expt 2 filterRange) (* -1 curve) 1) :gate gate :act :free))
+         (sndStep1 (_range nil (lf-pulse.ar freq 0.0 width) -1 1))
+         (sndStep2 (rlpf.ar sndStep1 (* freq filterEnv) rq))
+         (sndStep3 (* sndStep2 ampEnv)))
+    (out.ar out (pan2.ar sndStep3 pan))))
+(synth :acid0to3091-my-attempt :freq 80)
+(stop)
+
+;; after getting help with translation of other synth examples
+(defsynth acid0to3091-from-getting-help ((amp 0.5) (out 0) (gate 1) (freq 440) (pan 0) (att 0.001) (dec 0.5) (sus 0.1) (rel 0.5) (curve -4) (lagTime 0.12) (filterRange 6) (width 0.51) (rq 0.3))
+  (let* ((freq (lag.kr freq lagTime))
+         (ampEnv (env-gen.kr (adsr att dec sus rel amp 0) :gate gate))
+         (filterEnv (env-gen.kr (adsr att (* 2 dec) (/ sus 2) (* 2 rel) (expt 2 filterRange) (list (* -1 curve) curve curve) 1) :gate gate :act :free))
+         (sndStep1 (range (lf-pulse.ar freq 0.0 width) -1 1))
+         (sndStep2 (rlpf.ar sndStep1 (* freq filterEnv) rq))
+         (sndStep3 (* sndStep2 ampEnv)))
+    (out.ar out (pan2.ar sndStep3 pan))))
+(synth :acid0to3091-from-getting-help :freq 80)
+(stop)
+;; and let's remove gate?
+
+(defsynth acid0to3091-without-gate ((amp 0.5) (out 0)  (freq 440) (pan 0) (att 0.001) (dec 0.5) (sus 0.1) (rel 0.5) (curve -4) (lagTime 0.12) (filterRange 6) (width 0.51) (rq 0.3))
+  (let* ((freq (lag.kr freq lagTime))
+         (ampEnv (env-gen.kr (adsr att dec sus rel amp 0)))
+         (filterEnv (env-gen.kr (adsr att (* 2 dec) (/ sus 2) (* 2 rel) (expt 2 filterRange) (list (* -1 curve) curve curve) 1) :act :free))
+         (sndStep1 (range (lf-pulse.ar freq 0.0 width) -1 1))
+         (sndStep2 (rlpf.ar sndStep1 (* freq filterEnv) rq))
+         (sndStep3 (* sndStep2 ampEnv)))
+    (out.ar out (pan2.ar sndStep3 pan))))
+(synth :acid0to3091-without-gate :freq 80)
+(stop)
+;; just removing gate does nothing? so maybe gate should be controlled from patterns? by pasting in another
+;; and sound the same, so I'd need to put in maybe an envelope? in a pattern?
+
+(in-package #:cl-patterns)
+(pb :foo-with-acid
+
+  :instrument :acid0to3091-from-getting-help
+  :play-quant 4
+  :freq (pseq (list 40 50 60 70 80) 1)
+  :dur (pseq (list 1 2))
+  )
+;; (play :foo-with-acid)
+;; (end :foo-with-acid)
+;;
+;; wait, so it does work? maybe because "gate" is default parameter
+;; that gets created when events with duration get created?
+
+;;; fmbass after getting help:
+(in-package #:cl-collider)
+;;; my attempt
+;;; https://github.com/SCLOrkHub/SCLOrkSynths/blob/master/SynthDefs/bass/bassWarsaw.scd
+(defsynth fmBass-my-attempt ((out 0) (freq 440) (gate 1) (amp 0.5) (pan 0) (att 0.01) (dec 0.3) (sus 0.4) (rel 0.1) (slideTime 0.17) (cutoff 1100) (width 0.15) (detune 1.005) (preamp 4))
+  (let* ((env  (env-gen.kr (adsr att dec sus rel) :gate gate :act :free))
+         (freq (lag.kr freq slideTime))
+         (sndStep1 (var-saw.ar freq 0 width preamp))
+         (sndStep2 (distort sndStep1))
+         (sndStep3 (* sndStep2 env))
+         (sndStep4 (lpf.ar sndStep3 cutoff amp)))
+    (out.ar out (pan2.ar sndStep4 pan))))
+(synth :fmBass-my-attempt :freq 80)
+(stop)
+(defsynth fmBass ((out 0) (freq 440) (gate 1) (amp 0.5) (pan 0) (att 0.01) (dec 0.3) (sus 0.4) (rel 0.1) (slideTime 0.17) (cutoff 1100) (width 0.15) (detune 1.005) (preamp 4))
+  (let* ((env  (env-gen.kr (adsr att dec sus rel) :gate gate :act :free))
+         (freq (lag.kr freq slideTime))
+         (sndStep1 (var-saw.ar (list freq (* freq detune)) 0 width preamp))
+         (sndStep2 (distort (mix sndStep1)))
+         (sndStep3 (* sndStep2 env))
+         (sndStep4 (lpf.ar sndStep3 cutoff amp)))
+    (out.ar out (pan2.ar sndStep4 pan))))
+(synth :fmBass :freq 80)
+(stop)
+
+(in-package #:cl-patterns)
+(pb :foo-with-fmbass
+  :instrument :fmBass
+  :play-quant 4
+  :legato 1
+  :freq (pseq (list 40 50 60 70 80) 1)
+  :dur 1 ;; (pseq (list 1 2 3))
+  )
+;; (play :foo-with-fmbass)
+;; (end :foo-with-fmbass)
+
+;; changing :legato between 1 0.7 0.4 0.2
+;; and duration between 1 0.5 0.2
+;; produces cool sounds, and reevaluation while thing runs on #'PLAY is super cool
+;;
+;; apart from pitch model I'd like to learn how to merge patterns, so that all notes of phrase would play on one setting for :dur & :legato
+;; then on others,
diff --git a/programming-music-journal.org b/programming-music-journal.org
index 0130c25..0be9c34 100644
--- a/programming-music-journal.org
+++ b/programming-music-journal.org
@@ -284,3 +284,13 @@ What I got produced an interesting sound, but didn't stop
 And I'm currently very far from being able to debug \ troubleshoot what's going on here,
 I do have one #'ENV-GEN that has :act :free
 but can't follow all the transformations, so have no idea what's going wrong
+** [2022-09-02 Fri]
+*** got a helpful response
+with fixed synthdefs
+*** tried synths in a pattern and they work!
+even though they don't stop on their own,
+so maybe `gate` is a default argument that passes control from the pattern system, using `dur`
+*** NEXT - learn more about puttin melodies in, midinotes and stuff
+what I want is "pitch model"
+http://doc.sccode.org/Tutorials/Streams-Patterns-Events5.html
+*** NEXT - how to keep same note pattern repeating with different settings of legato \ duration